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Merideth
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No problem...

It happens to all of us... I will just be moving you around if you don't post

Hope this bit was acceptable... well save for the small things that have already come my way in PM's which I will try to make adjustments for officially here when I get a chance.

M.


Posted on 2010-03-15 at 18:26:17.

Steelight
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Shield Wolf

If your intention is to get one or the other of us killed, by all means continue. I will warn you however, that given my character's history he won't even suffer the faculty to speak down to him as you just did. It will come to blows and he will attempt (at least) to kill you without remorse, or regret regardless of consequences.

I just wanted to say that because it isn't personal at all. I understand Zeph's actions (sort of... though I did offer the imps the option to discuss their grevances in a civilized manner) as a player. But my character will react violently to your words. I hope you won't think less of me as a player when/if that happens.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 21:39:39.

Shield Wolf
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No worries

I kinda expected as such, but I intend to play my character as is. He already has nothing but contempt for humans, elves, dwarves, just about everyone. This just kinda pushed him a bit further than anyone has yet to see.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 21:45:26.

Steelight
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Understood

and accepted.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 21:46:38.

Shield Wolf
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just remember

And I don't mean this to deter you or anything, but if you attack Zeph then you have to contend with Sintan as well, and perhaps (depending solely on Meri) a few imps who may now look up to him.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 21:53:28.

Steelight
Sage of the Realms
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In character

I wouldn't care. That was the "regardless of consequences" part. You insulted him and talked down to him. That is all that matters. He will either destroy anything that gets in his way, or die in the process. Either way he lives up to his promise to himself.

EDIT: Also bear in mind that I did, in fact, give them the option to bring their grievances up in an appropriate manner with an appointed representative as would be expected in any sort of true negotiation. I would expect tha the school would refuse to negotiate with an angry mob. I know every business, government or person I know would likewise refuse to negotiate with a mob. Just wanted to make that point.

Anyway, I guess we'll see what happens.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 22:06:05.
Edited on 2010-03-16 at 22:12:26 by Steelight

Shield Wolf
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yes

While you did offer a so called peaceful solution your first reaction was weapons, as pointed out in character. From the point of view of a bullied Goblin your non-violent solution was nothing but further intimidation and threats aimed at walking all over the oppressed.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 22:34:22.

speeddemon
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My character may want to step in

I just realized that my character is probably going to step in to try and stop this fight due to his backstory, and i'll be helping Zeph because he's the on who wants a non-violent solution, but I will be prepared to fight you steelight though i'll try to dissuade you first. No hard feelings i hope


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 22:41:03.

Shield Wolf
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This may just be me

but I would expect an ex-slave to better understand the plight of the downtrodden and oppressed.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 23:10:05.

Steelight
Sage of the Realms
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1024 Posts


Wow...

The weapons are simple practicality. If I cannot harm something that can potentially attack me, I'm going to adequately equip myself prior to any such dealings. If you'll also notice, I made no move to reach for my weapons. Their weapons are their claws. So I am innately offering them the advantage in combat.

I did what I did. As far as the ex-slave understanding... I also understand that these imps are treated MUCH better than a slave (at least the slaves I would know), and the school has taught me that there is a correct way to go about something, and an incorrect way. The first steps are negotiation. Failing that, more significant action is required. Since they jumped directly to a revolt (a word which brings to mind a willingness to commit violence) then I am willing to do whatever is necessary to protect the school. When provoked by the goblin, the imps no longer matter, nor does anyone else for that matter. As I said, I will kill the goblin and anyone who stands in my way, or I will die in the attempt. Either way the promise that he made to himself when he escaped slavery will be fulfilled. And, likely, either way I am out of the game, either by way of death or expulsion.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 23:35:22.

speeddemon
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There is another option

Another option to you dying or getting expelled is us knocking you out and the nworking things out after your given a chance to calm down. Also I have to wonder what everyone else is doing now. And yes while revolution does sorta mean a willingness to harm someone they didn't actually attack anyone, and the same innate advantage of natural weapons goes for you too as your a monk. I still don't get why being told to do something would cause you to fly into a murderous rage. Miss o'leary must have ordered your character at some point in his three years there and you probably havn't tried to attack her. Can you think of anyway that your character wouldn't fight cause I would rather not get killed or expulsed or have it happen to anyone else.


Posted on 2010-03-16 at 23:45:05.

Shield Wolf
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okay

I understand what you're saying Steel, I'm not arguing with you or your actions in character, I'm only explaining things from Zeph's point of view. You grabbed a weapon, and immediately began yelling, making threats of banishment or violence, that isn't very negotiation-like.

Speed, while I appreciate your assistance, I'd like to point out that your favored enemy is Goblinoids, and you are willingly moving to help a Goblin, this strikes me as kinda odd. I understand you are siding with Zeph because he is advocating a nonviolent approach, but I think his race would also play a role in Darkon's choice to get in between the two.

All in all this has presented itself as a fun experiment into the personality of a character I fully intend to use as an NPC in later games. If he dies here and now then I will not be too upset, he's really not that viable a melee character at this level as it is with the +0 BAB and STR penalty, and I intend him to be a melee character at one point or another.


Posted on 2010-03-17 at 00:02:40.

speeddemon
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I thought about why I sided with a goblin

I thought about what I would do and there are many good reasons as to why I sided with you

Reason 1: Darkon's favoured enemies are only goblins because he was trained to fight them when he lived with the elves. And now that he hates most elves he isn't really sure what to belive about goblins anymore

Reason 2: Related to reason one is the fact that Darkon places anyone who's an adventurer as an adventurer first and a race as a distant second. Also he thinks of most elves as bad but not himself so he is willing to excpet that there will be beings of races that don't match the norm and he dosn't hold it against them

Reason 3: Darkon also saw you help the imps up and try to defend them from Steelight and that you want to peacefully work things out which is weighing heavily upon his mind at the time.

Those are the reasons why I decided to side with you even though my race would dictate otherwise. Also our characters have alot in common, for one where both characters that study and work with nature but don't worship a nature god, and were both chaotic neutral.


Posted on 2010-03-17 at 00:11:24.

speeddemon
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Wait I miss read your character sheet

Sorry i miss read your character sheet. Your neutral evil not chaotic neutral. Are you sure thats right because i'm not complaining or anything but you don't seem evil but maybe thats just me.


Posted on 2010-03-17 at 00:17:57.

Shield Wolf
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All very good reasons

It may seem that he is leaning away from the Evil by helping the Imps, but then again Imps are innately evil too, so helping them may not be a good act per say. As for not appearing evil, he takes great measures to control himself within the school so as to avoid expulsion, if he could get away with it he'd probably slit every other student's throat in their sleep.


Posted on 2010-03-17 at 00:21:31.
Edited on 2010-03-17 at 00:24:00 by Shield Wolf

   


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