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Skari-dono
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Gee...

Apologies for the delay. I've been working a lot this weekend and wasn't feeling well on Thursday (overly tired, mostly). Things should hopefully be getting back on track though, and I should be able to get this game into action.

But here are some good news: I'm giving all of you some bonus Power Points! Yay! It will be based on some factors but mostly on how well you did your characters. You are still limited to the Power Level Limit of the game (8, in case you forgot), but you can otherwise use the points however you like or save them for a rainy day.

Eol and Alacrity both get 2 points each - Both their characters have interesting stories and concepts, which I am excited to see in the game

Hammer gets 3 points - He put a lot of effort into making his character and did many remakes to get him exactly right.

Ayrn gets 5 points - For being so helpful as to help everyone with their characters while I wasn't present. The help was greatly appreciated

Please post here or send me a PM if you want to use these points. I'm still working on how I'd like the Advancement to work out in the game, but I'm leaning towards allowing you to instantly spend any Power Points that I reward. Once you've earned 15 Power Points (not counting the points I just rewarded you), the PL increases. How does that sound?


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 10:25:33.

Eol Fefalas
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Yay for bonuses!!!

Thanks, Skari! I'll have to think about what I might want to do with them for a bit... take a look at the character sheet and whatnot, decide if I wanna spend 'em now or later...

As for the delay... no worries, dude. Real life takes it's toll from time to time and, hey, you know, there's that whole volcano thing (which, quite honestly, would freak me right the hell out! ), soooo... We're all here, ready and raring to play whenever you are, Oskarmus Prime.


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 13:03:06.

Alacrity
The Tired
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Thank you

I understand RL delays and am looking forward to the game starting.


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 13:05:32.

Hammer
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Thanks

I will have to ponder about either saving the Power Points or figuring out how to use them (possibly on Father Brian O'Brien), or maybe as the game progresses I will figure something out ???

Then there is always Ayrn (who is on vacation for a few days) who may pop by here in the Q/A or send me a PM and give me a nudge and let me know a good way to spend them!

As for the delays, do not stress about it, as I am ready when you are ready to launch the adventure!

Meanwhile, maybe Grugg will show up during this delay ?????



Posted on 2014-08-26 at 15:55:22.

Ayrn
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Rub the lamp!

Surprise! Here's I am!

It's true. I leave for a camping trip on September 1-6 (and I've been promised no internet access), and then I have 2 days of crazy work.

I'll also be quite busy this week with work. (the joy of salary work )

Anyway, looking forward to this too!

Ayrn


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 16:07:02.

Hammer
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Enjoy Your Vacation Ayrn

I will probably place the 3 extra Power Points on Father Brian O'Brien, but I will take a closer look later today!

Thanks Again to our GM



Posted on 2014-08-26 at 16:12:13.

Ayrn
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If I could make a suggestion

What if we were to pool the extra points on Father O'Brian and headquarters and vehicle?

Something like this:

1 Power Point to spend on Equipment[Headquarters] to make the Headquarters a 17 equipment point headquarters (so, Hammer, you'd add 2 more features to to the headquarters you made, or another point of toughness)... and use the addition 3 equipment points to create 3 alternative headquarters (Mr Nobody's favourite restaurant, Sam's secret roost, and Christina's special happy place).

3 power points to spend on Equipment [Vehicle] to give us a shared vehicle. I'm thinking a Mercedes Benz 770... with GUNS!!

6 Power Points to spend on Sidekick ranks [Father O'Brian] to give this guy a little more combat utility (or faith healing ability). Regardless, it would make Father O'brian a 60 power point NPC (about half our level)... give him the tricked out car (and maybe a couple rank in Immortal) and either Hammer or Skari-dono can have a real "Robin" type guy hanging around.

Just a thought.


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 16:45:21.

Alacrity
The Tired
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If it is allowed

I am all for pooling my points because I like Mr. Nobody as he is right now. So if we can I would be up for it.


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 16:48:14.

Hammer
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Sounds Okay

I was going to upgrade Father Brian O'Brien's Abilities from -1 Awareness Rank to 0 Awareness Rank and his -1 Presence Rank to a +1 Presence Rank.

If you all want to Pool Power Points, then that sounds okay with me and we can sort it out with Ayrn and the group!



Posted on 2014-08-26 at 17:01:18.

Eol Fefalas
Lord of the Possums
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Great idea!

I like the sounds of pooling the points and giving our "headquarters" a nice little reno! Count me in!


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 17:13:44.

Ayrn
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2025 Posts


I'll send something soon

Give me a couple hours, and I'll have something for you.
Peace,
Ayrn


Posted on 2014-08-26 at 17:16:57.

Alacrity
The Tired
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restaurant

The Hq works well for Mr. Nobody because with his face and size he can't realy go into stores or restaurants. This gives him a place where he can get help and assistance.

But his Cat, Mr. Tibs has to be allowed!!!



Posted on 2014-08-26 at 17:19:51.

Hammer
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Special Note on Sanctum Sanctorum

Sanctum Sanctorum costs 12 Equipment Points [page 179]
Upgrade Size to Mansion, Cave Complex costs 1 Equipment Point [page 174]
Upgrade Toughness +4 costs 2 Equipment Points [page 174]
Large Cave Sanctum Sanctorum with Toughness 14 costs 15 Equipment Points

The above was used with Zilver Wreker's Equipment Points and an Additional Equipment Point for a Gym was used by Father Brian O'Brian's Power Points:

Gym = 1 Equipment Point [Headquarters Features pg 174 & 177 to be added to the Sanctum Sanctorum for the Zilver Wreker Headquarters]
Also this is what the Vehicle already has:

Large Car [page 172] costs 8 Equipment Points
Upgrade to Add 2 Features [page 170]
Alarm costs 1 Equipment Point
Navigation System costs 1 Equipment Point
Large Car with Alarm & Navigation System costs 10 Equipment Points

Looking forward to what Ayrn comes up with for additions!

Thanks Ayrn and Thanks Everyone for Pooling Power Points!






Posted on 2014-08-26 at 17:43:20.
Edited on 2014-08-26 at 17:44:51 by Hammer

Ayrn
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PART 1 - Updated Headquarters

HEADQUARTERS: CHURCH
Size: Dual-Sized – Appear to be a Large-sized church from the outside, the underground lair is actually Gargantuan size (costs 4 ep for size, 1 ep for dual-size feature)

Toughness: 16 (costs 5 ep for +10 toughness)

Features (costs 12 ep):
Concealed 2 [DC 25 to locate concealed entrances to underground lair]
Garage
Gym
Infirmary
Library
Living Space
Secret 3 [DC 30 to discover the lair]
Security System 1 [DC 20 to overcome locks]
Workshop

Total Cost: 22 equipment points +3 equipment points for alternative headquarters / 5 power points

**Notes**: Alacrity and Eol, if you don’t feel like creating an alternative headquarters, we can use those extra equipment points to purchase the following additional features for the church:

- Power System (it runs on its own power grid)
- Defensive System (something to help keep the bad people out)
- Fire Prevention System (something to put out accidental kitchen fires)



Posted on 2014-08-27 at 07:17:05.

Ayrn
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PART II - The Car

VEHICLE: SOUPED UP MERCEDES-BENZ 770 W07
Size: Limo – Huge (costs 3 ep)

Strength: 8 [6 tons carrying capacity] (costs 0 ep)

Speed: 5 [900 ft/round; 100 mph] (costs 5 ep)

Defenses: 6 (costs 8 ep)

Toughness: 10, Impervious (costs 11 ep)

Features:
Navigation System (costs 1 ep)
Security System 2 (costs 2 ep)

Total Cost of Vehicle: 30 equipment points = 6 power points

**NOTES** I tried to equip this ride with some weapons, but I decided against it. Truthfully, it’s questionable whether or not we really need the car as all the PCs have their own personal modes of transportation. Only Father O’Brian really need a ride...

One benefit is, perhaps, that the car is a slightly more subtle way of moving around the city (as opposed to leaping, flying, and teleporting).

Anyway, presently, Hammer, this would free up the 5 power points you spent on Equipment (Vehicles/Headquarters), plus we have 1 more from our pool remaining for a total of 6 power points.

A couple of options:

Option #1 - The Simple One: Add the 6 remaining power points to buy more ranks in Sidekick: Father O’Brian. Make sure you max out Father O’Brian’s Vehicle skill so he can at least drive this thing. Probably a bunch of skill points in Technology would be helpful too so he can repair any damage to the vehicle.

Option #2 - The “Min-Max” One: Scrap this vehicle idea, gain 6 additional power points. Spend all 12 power points on buying ranks in Sidekick: Father O’Brian to give you an additional 60 sidekick points to create your sidekick. Then spend 6 of those sidekick points on equipment to purchase this exact vehicle. This would leave you with 54 sidekick points... and you’d still have the car (mind you, it’s Father O’Brian’s car). Again, maxing out the Father’s Vehicle and Technology skills would be wise.

Option #3 - The “And Now For Something Completely Different” Idea: Scrap this vehicle idea, gain 6 additional power points. Spend all 12 power points on buying ranks in Sidekick, and create Father O’Brian in such a way that he has his own mode of transportation. Maybe a motorcycle (with a side car, so Zilver can ride along... haha)...

On a different note, Hammer, you may also want to revise Father O’Brian a bit... I don’t know his full backstory (beyond him being a good friend of Zilver) or what you have in mind for him, but some of your combinations of Abilities/Advantages/Skills won’t work so well in game play.

In particular, Father O’Brian has Contacts, Connected, Taunt, and Well Informed advantages with are all keyed off skills. Contacts is based on Persuasion (which is -1 for O’Brian); Connected is Investigation, which you can’t use without ranks in Investigation; Taunt is Deception (which is -1 for O’Brian); and Well-Informed is either Investigation (can’t use) or Persuasion (-1 penalty).

Additionally, the advantages Accurate Attack, Defensive Attack, and Power Attack are probably unnecessary as you can, without those advantages, already shift your damage or attack modifiers by -2/+2. I doubt he’ll want to shift either much more than that. Uncanny Dodge also, presently, doesn’t do anything for O’Brian. When a character is surprised, their active defenses (dodge and parry) are cut in half... O’Brian’s dodge and parry scores are at 1 presently. I wouldn’t consider Uncanny Dodge until his Dodge and Parry are significantly higher (in the 8+ range)

Two advantages you may want to consider are Improved Defenses & Weapon Bind, which combines nicely with his Improved Disarm advantage... mind you, Disarm is keyed off of strength, so O’Brian may have some difficulties pulling it off.

Also, under O’Brian’s equipment, you have his armor listed with the Easily Removable flaw, which is actually already accounted for in the Equipment advantage... so, it actually still costs 12 equipment points. Or, you need to shift it over to the Powers section and make it a device like we did with Zilver. It costs more as a device, but I think that is a more accurate description for his armor.

Oh... and, of course, now that we’ve pool power points for the headquarters, Father O’Brian doesn’t need to spend that equipment point on the gym.

Peace,
Ayrn


Posted on 2014-08-27 at 10:22:54.

   


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