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Rystefn K'ryll
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No it won't...

This is a problem physicists run into constantly: The real world doesn't work like that. There are more complications than you allowed for in this scenario. In this case, physics can explain why. Yes, if they were floating in empty space, resisted only by inertia, braced apart, and suddenly the tension removed completely, the bow would move more than the arrow if the arrow were bigger - but they would both move. Equal and opposite reactions and such. With a massive enough size difference, the movement of the large object becomes negligible - eventually to disappear when the inertia is enough to prevent the movement altogether.

However, in this case, the bow is being held in place by a person. With the forces involved in this specific action, a human being is a nigh on immoveable object. Possibly enough to wobble a bit, but not enough to make him lose his grip on the bow. In archery, the long bones and large muscle groups in the left arm and shoulders are carefully and specifically lined up to resist the forces pulling the bow back towards the archer. If the pull of the bow is strong enough for the recoil to snap it back into his face because ofthe size of the arrow, then the pull of the bow is too great for him to have drawn it in the first place.


Posted on 2007-01-27 at 16:41:20.

Grugg
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I think

I think Ryst simply dies due to this.


Posted on 2007-01-27 at 18:27:39.

Celedwe
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yes it will...

unfortunately for you ryst, the mass of the bow is smaller than that of the arrow, so therefore even IF Newton's third law is applied, the bow should suffer a greater change in motion. and no, Master Ryne is not a master archer thus he does not have muscular arms, and in a real-life scenario, the force which the bow is being thrown back with is considerably greater than that which Master Ryne is holding the bow with
and since the bow will presumably crash right into Master Ryne's face, the impulse is rather great, the momentum of the bow being immensely significant, resulting in a broken nose and probably neck, especially as a human skull is quite hard and this is BIG force over small time. (no his head is not a padded dashboard)


Posted on 2007-01-28 at 03:26:23.
Edited on 2007-01-28 at 03:27:10 by Celedwe

Grugg
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njomka;sfdasgf

If the arrow is too big...how the hell does he pull it back? I disagree with everything...and demand that we now talk of pie.


Posted on 2007-01-28 at 03:28:22.

Celedwe
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bathawrfw

ah yes pie...
did you know that you can't touch anything, including pie?
what you feel is actually the electro-static repulsion between your atoms and that of the pie... the force that prevents your hand from plain sinking through the atoms of the pie and resulting in a pie-atomed hand...

*points to the above* that was just to annoy ryst. let's see what he has to say


Posted on 2007-01-28 at 04:52:20.

Grugg
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mk'asfd

Something exceptionally non-commital no doubt.


I can touch pie if I want to. And I do. So I will.


Posted on 2007-01-28 at 14:32:06.

Carey
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pie

Do you want ice cream to go with the pie? It is a proven fact that together they are better.

Pecan pie is my favorite, and pumpkin, lemon, coconut, chocolate, banana, blueberry, cherry, .............................................................................


Posted on 2007-01-28 at 21:51:40.

Lyskhala
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3600 Posts


ummmmmmmm

PECAN PIE is my fav too


C & Ryst...how dare you be smarter than the rest of us!!!!
Tis not fair!!


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 00:00:38.

Grugg
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mk;afd

Dumb People > Smart People


9 out of 5 doctors agree. The ones that didn't did all to the east!!!


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 01:52:03.

Rystefn K'ryll
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Once again

"If the pull of the bow is strong enough for the recoil to snap it back into his face because of the size of the arrow, then the pull of the bow is too great for him to have drawn it in the first place."

Master archer or no, this is the reality.

Furthermore, in this scenario, the bow and the archer are essentially one object. The arrow would have to exceed the combined mass of the bow and the archer together to stay in place here. If you REALLY want to push this, I'll do it for you. I'll put my life on the line to prove you wrong.


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 03:18:32.

Carey
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?

why did my hair drier come with the instuctions do not use in shower?


If the water were running how would you expect it to dry...............zzzaappp it would be shocking though


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 05:49:44.

Lyskhala
Kohai
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wow

Ryst is challenging C to a physics duel!!

Everybody grab a seat!


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 13:00:20.

Grugg
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nj/lasf

Grab a seat?


*grabs a folding chair and hits someone*


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 20:00:24.

Lyskhala
Kohai
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3600 Posts


>>>>

You're a BEAST.


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 20:24:03.

Grugg
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n /lafds

No! You're a beast!


Posted on 2007-01-29 at 20:25:26.

   


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