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t_catt11
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There ya go.  The Cleric and the Prophet.



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 14:02:12.

Eol Fefalas
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Nice!

Now we just rig the holo-emitters to make Peregrine look like a dragon and we can fulfil a prophecy! I mean, surely, fulfilling a prophecy doesn't violate the Prime Directive, does it? Sisko did it, after all!



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 15:24:55.

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That would be some trick.



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 15:55:22.

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Salute!

I'll get right on it Captain... however... I believe the prophecy said something about birds as well, and our name certainly works.  Perhaps just reading it on the side of the ship is enough.   

Although perhaps Kennedy could work up some holo feathers...  

M. 

 



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 15:59:16.

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I've posted for Ander. FYI - Saturday Beta shift is when he hosts a poker game for senior officers. 



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 18:36:02.

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Invite...

Did you send Kennedy an invite?  

Although, after what she's going to do at the meeting she might get that revoked.   

M. 

 



Posted on 2021-03-01 at 20:18:36.

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What a great round of posts!  Glad I waited for the collab.  



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 00:06:17.

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So, a few questions in preparation for the meeting

  • What kind of satellite network is in orbit around Calican II? (I'm assuming something akin to latter 20th century Earth but just want to verify.)
    • Has the asteroid had any impact (destroyed, disrupted, etc) on Calican's satelites?
    • How close can we get the Peregrine to the planet before we risk detection by one or more of those satellites and/or, given the doomsday scenario, are they even bothering to monitor?
  • What's the maximun effective range of Peregrine's tractor beam?

I think that may be all I have in advance of the meeting but, we'll see.



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 08:46:08.

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All great questions!

I have Calican II at roughly late 1970s to early 1980s in terms of technology.  So they have a satellite network, but those are used for communications or planetary concerns.  They may have a telescope platform of similar (think Hubble), but by and large, I can't see them getting a lot of real time intel about space from their satellites.  Of course, they likely have a decent number of planet-based sources of observation; I doubt that we can just drop into orbit with impunity.

I cannot imagine that the asteroid has impacted the satellites yet.  Frankly, it likely won't unless it happens to hit one on the way through.

I'm sure that there are astronomers still watching the skies.  Even in 2021, Earth would likely not notice a ship the size of the Peregrine unless it were in orbit. 

The range of the tractor depends on the size and density of the item to be manipulated.

Effective tractor beam range varies with payload mass and desired delta-v. Assuming a nominal 15 m/sec-squared delta-v, the multiphase tractor emitters can be used with a payload approaching 650,000,000 metric tons at less than 2,000 meters. Conversely, the same delta-v can be imparted to an object massing about one metric ton at ranges approaching 30,000 kilometers.

I'm guesstimating the asteroid's mass at perhaps 70^15 kg - or 4,747,561,509,943,000,000,000,000 metric tons (I'm using Ida, which has a mass of about 100^15 kg, as a template to spitball the mass here).  Even if it were "only" 50^15 kg, you're still talking about numbers MANY, MANY times above what the tractor beam can easily manipulate.  Plus, the field itself projects out to about 920 meters in diameter... our rock is better than 32,000 meters wide.

I'm not saying that we can't maybe nudge it with the tractor, but those numbers seem to suggest that we may need another idea.

 



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 12:01:08.
Edited on 2021-03-02 at 12:07:03 by t_catt11

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10 Q!

That's what I wanted to know!



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 12:15:14.

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The Tonight Show.........

Do we have a communications Officer that would be monitoring the planet side broadcast?

Can we see and hear what they are saying and showing?



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 14:30:45.

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Heeeeeere's CANDAR!!!

I would think that should be extremely doable, Ody. Probably have to compensate for some interference and such, maybe do some calibrations to be able to pick up on those older VHF/UHF/RF style frequencies but, given "our" tech versus "theirs," it shouldn't be a difficult task.

Edit: A Class VI Comm Relay/Emergency Beacon probe or a Class VII Remote Culture Study probe would probably come into play in this sort of thing, actually. You can check the specs for those here.



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 15:16:33.
Edited on 2021-03-02 at 15:22:04 by Eol Fefalas

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comms

I had this same thought.

Communications are handled at the operations station.  The thing is, this planet lacks subspace broadcast technologies.  I'm thinking we may have to move closer to collect those weaker signals.



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 15:29:03.

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So... preminitions too, eh?

Well not premonitions as such, but kind of perhaps? Probably will not happen ever again, so I thought it might not be too much for Star Trek. And there is an explanation anyway.  

But if you feel it's too much or too powerful, do let me know and I'll tone it down. I don't mind.



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 17:51:01.

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Not really a premonition.  Given that you already gave me canon sources for Betazoids being able to feel intense emotion over tremendous distances, I don't think that your post was out of line.  The only beef I'd have might be for Veen to be able to approximate the number of people he was feeling; at some point, does it matter how many drops are in a tidal wave?

At any rate, the Captain's post is up.  Cpmsoder this the greenlight to start brainstorming.  We are on the clock!



Posted on 2021-03-02 at 18:12:45.

   


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