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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: wha..
hahahhaa, i have no idea! I think sufocating would be quicker, or not? Nightbeast?? 
Uhh, eat juicy buffalo testicles, or live spiders? (you can thank Fear Factor for that one)
Posted on 2007-03-28 at 13:17:38.
Edited on 2007-03-28 at 13:18:01 by Fantasy
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: yea
i think nightbeast should be in Philosophy club, if he isn't already. I was in high school, we talked about questions like those once in a while.
Posted on 2007-03-28 at 13:14:18.
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Topic: Getting to know you
Subject: yea
i think that's kinda pagan/agnostic. I also have that idea. So i dunno, I think agnostic is a pretty good term. I feel the biggest spiritual connection through nature, and if i'm not mistaken, i think that's leaning a little towards paganism? I dunno, i don't know much about pagans. I think it has something to do with nature though. ?
Well, anyway, I'm agnostic, with a leaning towards what lysk said. lol
Posted on 2007-03-28 at 13:11:27.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: aijusxg wub
Ryst, you're making yourself sound stupid. You should know that, because we're all talking in realistic terms, and you're complicating something simple. Well, you're not even complicating it, you're changing the point to make yourself sound right, but it isn't working for you, because farmers have nothing to do with wild grown food from the beginning of time. Sure, farmers have been around since the beginning of time and it's the same thing, farmers DIDN'T put that chemical in their food for millions of years, and still don't, if they're natural growing farmers. Do you even know what that chemical is, or does? I get my information out of books and agricultural/food/environmental scientists, where do you get yours? So sit back and stop trying to have the last word about something you're obviously not understanding.
I actually think you DO understand it, but you think we're trying to 'prove you wrong', but the point was never to aruge with you in the first place, or even start a debate for that matter. When someone asked me what organic meat was, i only told them what it was. I knew you would make something of it, just because you're against animal activists. Whether the topic was about organic meat or me having to put my dog down and me being upset about it, you would have something to say about it. I think it's all in an effort to make yourself feel better about 'perhaps' what you feel quilty for, what what people may think your faults are. But if it isn't that, then you do it just to make yourself like a know-it-all, and sadly, you don't know the half of it, pal. By the way, if seal clubbing isn't done for sport, then they would use a gun or a knife, and not whack the animal to death in the back of the head with a big bat like a ratard. I feel bad for even having to sound insulting towards you, because i liked you and i thought you were a funny guy, but i hate how you handle yourself when trying to debate, i think it's terrible. If i really didn't like you, i think i would be pretty mean in this situation, but like i said, i don't want to hurt your feelings, i just want you to stop trying so hard to prove ....what point?
That's my question, Ryst, what are you trying to prove now? You're going to have a big answer for that, i'm sure, but i really would like to know what you're trying to prove. Because most of everything you have said has been something of no actuality or actually pertaining to the right point of conversation. The thing is, there is no -point- to this. Organic meats are, as quoted by the USDA's Organic Headlines: animals must (1) not be fed by any rendered animal by-products, (2) must be traced through their lifecycle, (3) must not be fed antibiotics or growth hormones and, (4) must be allowed to engage in natural behaviors, such as seasonal access to pasture. These two organizations offer certifications to farmers an companies who go beyond USDA organic standards, and that includes the method of slaughter, and an even better handling on the chemical-free process:
-Humane Farm Animal Care (HFAC)
-The Food Alliance
There is really nothing more to say to this, though i'm sure you'll find something, even though there is no point. Is your goal to get people to not eat organic, pure meat and foods? Is there something wrong with the fact that i value my life, my family's life, and the life of animals? Is it so bad that I care a little more and don't mind trying a little harder to avoid the now 'customary' way of life? That i love animals and sense their pain? That i feel sorry for them because of their ignorance? That I like to have a healthier lifestyle? That i want to live as long as possible. Is it really so bad!!?
I would love to be completely vegetarian, and when i was, i had so much pride in the fact that i didn't eat meat. But i realised how difficult that is really. Finding fake milk, finding fake cheese, finding desserts, cakes, cooking creams, and even food seasonings that didn't come from animals. Then i found out about Organic/Biological/Animal Friendly products, and being realistic, i made that my new way of life. Once i started reaseaching this stuff, i starting realizing all the other aspects, like the health. I'm slowly turning my whole house into as much of a pure environment as i can. For myself, for Michiel, and for my kids when they come.
So what is so wrong with that, that I care and do something about it? I didn't tell anyone to eat organic meat, and i certainly didn't tell you too. I told them what it was and how I feel about it. I do wish i were more of an activist, actually, but I've had enough at the moment of hearing rude remarks made by jerk-offs who don't give a damn about the value of life, any life. And i'm not talking about you, I'm talking about idiots on myspace, or any other place where people can find out that I'm against animal mistreatment. And people that I see on the street, on TV, hear on the radio. People who say or do ridiculous, unbelievable things that make me wish they could be in the place of whatever animal or person they're bashing or not caring about.
So you can go sit in your chair there and try to think of something witty to say about this, but you're not convincing anyone that organic foods are a bad thing, if that's what your underlying meaning is. It sure sounds that way. Like you're offended that me (or others) eat organic food and have something good to say about it. If you can give a waitress a 400 dollar tip, i can surely spend my money on what i think is a good cause as well. I'm trying to help not only one person, but my whole surroundings, environment, and some animals in the process. So get off it, Will.
Posted on 2007-03-28 at 06:40:32.
Edited on 2007-03-28 at 20:43:27 by Fantasy
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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: eww
nipples. ((what's going on with chefboy?))
Be burned alive or drown?
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 20:18:09.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: yea uhh...
i don't think ryst really understands...or reads. Who said anything about farmers? O_o
I'm talking about food. Food. ya know...like apples and peaches and pears. The caveman didn't put azinphos methyl in his chickens or his flowers. 
Btw, he actually prescribes 'Paracetemol'...a medicine they have here. I just say asprin, as i don't know the english equivilant. But taking an asprin or ibuprofen a day has been proven to keep heart attacks at bay. Not saying that means it's healthy, but at least you won't get a heart attack. :S
I don't take asprin/paracetemol, as it does not help me. I take ibuprofen though. Is there something wrong with that?
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 20:10:31.
Edited on 2007-03-27 at 20:14:26 by Fantasy
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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: bleh
ick, cat poop to pick up. It's not as HUGE!
when you're old: gray hair or white hair?
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 18:07:28.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: uh huh
oh man, i know, tell me about it! I wish doctors were better informed on nutrition. Though, there are homeopathic doctors (my doctor is one), and they know a little more and generally give you natural solutions to help you. The only downside, in my case haha, is that he doesn't prescibe un-natural stuff very often at all..like pain killers! He sends you off with some asprin and says you'll be alright, just give it time. lol bah.
But he's right. He's both a medicinal doctor and a homeopathic doctor. Whoo, he must have been in college a lifetime. >_<
But just because he is homeopathic doesn't mean he knows that much about nutrition. I'm actually not sure if he knows more than the fundamental basics of nutrition, actually. He sends you to nutritionists for that info! arg. more money.
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 18:03:46.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: uhh
Actually you're wrong, and it's completely the other way around. 'Organics', as we call them, has allllwaaayyyysss been around. It's just food grown normally. Like when your grandparents had a garden in the back yard growing tomatoes. The worst thing they could use was a store-bought pesticide!
Food scientists are constantly testing the waters, as they should, trying out new and better ways of getting food for the public. Some time ago they let out the information of this or that hormone, this or that chemical, this or that steroid to the food industry, telling them that in 'this quantity' it is safe enough and produces bigger and better food, and THAT is when some people got together and decided to capitalize on THAT idea. That's how it happened. Now it has become all we know, and has only gotten worse. You eat plastic and all kinds of chemicals everyday that your body tries to reject. And no, eating them constantly doesn't make you immune, it takes years off your life. Lovely eh?
Now, pure food is so rare that we have to give it a name, therefore making it seem like some new concept, "Organics", when IT is the concept that has been around since the beginning of time before harmful crap was being spoon-fed to us.
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 16:30:45.
Edited on 2007-03-27 at 16:32:08 by Fantasy
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Topic: Corrupt a wish
Subject: haha yogurt. aww
You remembered your yoghurt but it turned out to be moldy when you opened it
I wish neutral dish-soap didn't dry my hands out.
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 13:55:51.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: hm
there's actually something i want to add before this discussion is over, that i should have said a long time ago, it just didn't cross my mind after i hit the reply button a couple pages back.
Ryst, you wrote:
Yeah, I may be a little cynical, but when looking at any piece of information, I look at who has money to make from me thinking that way. Consider the source, I say. There's a lot of money in the charity business these days. Billions upon uncounted billions of dollars changing hands. What would you do with that kind of money on the line? Lie? Distribute false information? Appeal to emotion over reason? Even if you wouldn't, you know as well as I do that most people would. Trust no one.
But the thing is, the most important part of organics, is that they are hormone and chemical-free. There's no added foreign substances that could endanger your health. That is why the largest percentage of organic meat eaters, buy organic meat. A lot of them don't even know or think about the animal treatment aspects of it, they just want quality meats. It's not a charitable organization at all. The reason organics cost a little more is because it takes a little added effort and added money to supply these pure foods. It takes more land, better ways of fertilizing, longer growing periods, and suitable pesticides, if any, to even have organic foods. Society has really adapted to a fast paced, fast-food, easy lifestyle, using corrupt and often dangerous methods of getting the most out of a plant, out of an animal, out of a car, etc.
Organics are becoming more and more popular because more and more people are realising what kind of new health issues are arrising, and what bad consequences are coming to our environment for using such harmful pollutions. Therefore, the prices of Organics are dropping fast!! More people are asking for organics, affordable organics, and stores and farms and markets are TRYING to make it available for the public. What the public wants, the public gets, as long as they're paying for it. But the public controls what they WILL pay for it. So, just try not to think only about the animal mistreatment activists in this whole scenario of price and charity, because in complete actuality, organics are made to be organic, aka: pure. Not specifically animal friendly...that just comes with the package.
There's a book that i really love called 'The Complete Organic Pregnancy' by Deirdre Dolan and Alexandria Zissu. I recommend anyone to read it, not just prego's. The book covers all aspects of your life, your house, your environment, your food, your furniture, your cleaning products, and well, just everything. It's extremely informative, while also very interesting to read. Everything in the book is well-researched and covers all bases. The front reads: "What you need to know--from the nail polish you wear to the bed you sleep in to the water you drink."
Not everyone is into reading books, but we're on the rdinn here, so i don't think we should have that many non-book readers Even if so, think of this book as a sort of guide/informational book, rather than a novel. That's what it is. I bought mine on amazon. Well, Almerin bought it for me as a birthday gift
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 11:13:20.
Edited on 2007-03-27 at 13:49:09 by Fantasy
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: mm hmm
i believe her when she says she wasn't trying. You're only trying when you're 'trying to find the answers'. She said more in a few sentences than Will said in umpteen posts.
You know, i wouldn't say i had to try either. Well, it took me a few minutes to make that picture, though. 
Why does Flammable and Inflammable mean the same thing? It really does, i checked on the back of my cleaning products/air fresheners. They say both, and both is to mean they can inflame!
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 11:12:03.
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Topic: Question and Answers Game
Subject: well
what did Alacrity's parents REALLY name him?
If you have a wart, let me know!
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 07:13:45.
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Topic: What would you do with a million pounds?
Subject: poke
if i had a million pounds/dollars/euro, i would leave 400 buck tips all the time! I hear it's a real hoot!
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 07:09:14.
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Topic: Getting to know you
Subject: as for me...
agnostic here.
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 07:07:21.
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Topic: It drives me crazy !!
Subject: :P
 , ok, you're not grugg. But you're not celedwe either!! hehe
Posted on 2007-03-27 at 07:05:18.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: lol
Come here and say that to my face, you Persian!!!! *buffs up*
Anyway, I don't need to argue with you. You have to have the last word, whether you're right or wrong.
But just know this: The world isn't out to get you. It loves you. Embrace the hug!!!!
and PETA sucks a$$. I mentioned that. The video doesn't have any special effects though
Look up your info on the internet, search something other than PETA. You get the same.
Yes, Seal clubbing is cruel because they do it for sport. Eat them and use their parts, you weasels!
300 has really gotten to me. I'm ready to beat Ryst up.
hehe. All in good fun, Ryst.
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 15:57:01.
Edited on 2007-03-26 at 16:18:19 by Fantasy
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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: tough one
Honey Mustard, mostly. But Sweet and Sour for chinese. But an egg roll with honey mustard is quite nice!
Jeans or 'other fabric' pants?
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 13:44:17.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: $
yea, the price. Well, everywhere i have been (in terms of grocery shopping), i have found organic meat and foods to be very reasonably priced. Our budget doesn't take any hits. We only buy organic meat. Well, now they have meats that are 'animal friendly', but not chemical-free enough to be considered 'organic', so we buy the animal friendly stuff as well. It's only 1 dollar/euro more than a normal pack of meat usually. We live in the Netherlands, by the way. But i am American, and we go to America very often, and the last time we were there (christmas), we found a LOT of organic foods and meat that was priced the same as it is here. The chicken was 10 times cheaper, even! That was in Southern America, so maybe it's different in other parts, but so far we've been lucky to find cheap organics.
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 13:28:36.
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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: i guess
sleep in?
Give a large lump of money to one person in need, or spread out the money and give it to several persons in need?
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 06:47:05.
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Topic: These are the Questions of our Lives.
Subject: nature is nature. Ryst is Ryst.
uhh, Ryst, you're mistaken. They only cut a jugular vein, and the animal hangs there and suffers for a rather long time. At least watch the video before you go saying "what you know". The reason they do it this way is to purposely keep the animal alive, so that the blood continues to flow through the body. It comes out faster if it's still pumping. Once the animal dies, the heart stops pumping blood.
Even if they were to kill the animal quickly, it doesn't rule out all the other turture and crap it has been through throughout its life and shortly before its death.
As for animals in the wild, don't think i don't feel sorry for them too when they get ripped open by another animal. But that's how they've done things since the beginning of time. Animals haven't developed a sense of being civilized, like we humans are capable of being. Animals remain barbaric and get food as they are capable of. We have the minds, the tools, and the means to be decent. Now, if you're a barbaric hairy man, out in the wilderness, with nothing other than your self-made weapons, then that's what i expect you to use when getting food. Since we aren't hairy barbarians, we can do otherwise. At least a lot of those animals in the wild got to be in the wild, and not in freaking cages and hooked up to milk-sucking pumps, and constantly impregnated by humans to ensure 'quality' milk.
Edit: and the hairy barbaric man doesn't sit around and turture and abuse the animal for a few days before he kills it. He kills it and eats it and uses it's fur and parts and that's it.
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 06:40:18.
Edited on 2007-03-26 at 06:44:26 by Fantasy
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Topic: Getting to know you
Subject: *gasp*
yeah right!! $400???? That's ridiculous. Celebrities hardly even do that. Jesus. You have so many better things to spend that money on. Poorer people who need it, if you just want to give it away!
you crazy tipper people.
Ryst, that's completely unbelievable.
Posted on 2007-03-26 at 06:11:49.
Edited on 2007-03-26 at 06:21:11 by Fantasy
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Topic: It drives me crazy !!
Subject: oh god
you are so grugg
Posted on 2007-03-24 at 22:32:56.
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Topic: Getting to know you
Subject: mm hmmm
Yea, i think you may be Grugg...or somebody entirely different than you say you are. Lol..i dunno, maybe i'm wrong, but you seem too much to be true!
Posted on 2007-03-24 at 18:34:31.
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Topic: The Would You Rather Game
Subject: i think Celedwe is Grugg....
Sky dive
White socks or colored/black socks?
Posted on 2007-03-24 at 10:50:32.
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