Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: whoa
Sorry to hear that Ayrn. Hope everything works out well.
Posted on 2014-10-27 at 14:30:53.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: psh
No reason for sorry, dude. We're just excited about the game.
Posted on 2014-10-27 at 14:14:56.
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Topic: AMC's The Walking Dead
Subject: personally...
I am SO glad that they did. I know that everybody loved the Governor... I felt like that drug on for about en entire season too long.
If we were going to have an entire season of cannibals - or, God forbid - a season plus - I was going to get very disillusioned with the show.
I get that there are going to be conflicts among humans. This should be part of the show, yes. The dynamic of the group that Darryl fell in with, post-prison, was really interesting.
But to me, this felt contrived. Rick knows that we can't let the cannibals survive, but c'mon, Rick, even though we can walk out of a horde, those guys will be dead or run away. Surprise! They're stalking you! Just, no.
Also, I'm sorry, but I HATED the entire cannibal concept, anyway.
Will people turn to cannibalism to survive? Sure.
Will people get xenophobic when the world goes crazy? Sure.
Do I buy for a moment that because some bad guys abused the Terminus people, a community of 50 plus people all decide to start luring strangers in for the sole purpose of eating them? C'mon, man.
I'm glad this part is over. More zombies in the zombie apocalypse for me, please.
Posted on 2014-10-27 at 14:13:20.
Edited on 2014-10-27 at 14:13:59 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: well...
As Roger pointed out, this really only applies until we enter a room. At that point, we'll fan out and enter combat, yes?
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 15:42:16.
Edited on 2014-10-25 at 18:23:58 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: well...
I don't see how you get a +12 to damage. You get +6 from strength, +3 from magical bonus. If Roger also gives +1 per specialization slot, you'd have +2 more, for a total of +11 (you spent three slots per sword, yes? Two for specialization).
Arien would actually be +15 damage, then, as I maxed out the slots for his sword (4 total). +9 for strength, +3 for magic, +3 for specialization.
Also - you have listen ten weapon proficiency slots. Not sure where those came from. Warrior gets 4 at level 1, one more per three levels - so a straight warrior has 9 slots at level 15. Rogue gets two at level 1, one per four levels. However, you don't count the two at level one, you already got your starting prof slots (otherwise, somebody who left the profession of warrior would have move skills than someone who devotes their entire life to it... doesn't make sense).
So, you should get 4 warrior starting + 2 for level advancement (at levels 3 and 6). For rogue, you get two more slots (one at level 4, another at 8 ). That's a grand total of 8 slots, not 10.
C'mon, man. You don't get ALL of the warrior toys, plus all of the rogue ones. 
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 05:07:50.
Edited on 2014-10-25 at 05:15:15 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: understand
Tann, Maximus certainly has value, but putting him in front is going to accomplish one thing - he'll get to soak lots of damage with all of those hit points.
His base THAC0 is 14. Arien's is 6.
His THAC0 with one of his magic weapons is 6. Arien's is -4.
His AC is very nice at -4. Arien's is -9 (-10 vs missiles).
His damage output is weapon + magic bonus of +3 + strength bonus of +6. Arien's is weapon + magic bonus of +3 + strength bonus of +9.
So... Arien is going to get his noticeably less often. Arien is going to land hits far more frequently, and is going to hurt the bad guys more every time.
Maximus fills a vital role in the group - without him, we are at the mercy of every trap out there. Just because Arien can bash down doors doesn't mean that I think he should do so - Maximus is going to be more effective there by picking locks and removing traps.
Don't feel like me saying that Maximus is not a front line fighter is an insult. It's not, it's just pretty straightforward facts.
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 04:25:56.
Edited on 2014-10-25 at 04:27:02 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: yep
I agree with ranger at point in the wilderness. I understood Alacrity's marching order question to be applicable to his dungeon. If I'm mistaken, smack me now.
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 04:13:27.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: well
Maximus' HP are great, but seeing as how he's dual class, his THAC0 is awful for a front line fighter. The -4 AC is nice, but Arien is at -9 (would be -12 versus missiles, but 2nd edition caps at -10), gets 5/2 attacks, and his base THAC0 of 6 is effectively -4 when using his primary weapon... which he gets a massive +12 to damage with (+9 from girdle of giant strength, +3 from the sword's magic).
Remember, a dual class character can use the most advantageous numbers from each class (once he is at least equal in those levels), but that's all. Maximus fights as a 7th level fighter (THAC0 14), an 8th level rogue (THAC0 17). He'll obviously use the 14, but that won't stack up to the knight, dwarf, or ranger.
I'm not saying that Maximus is chopped liver, but me calling Arien a tank is not hyperbole. Maximus is not a good choice for point man in any situation aside from those requiring thief skills.
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 04:03:21.
Edited on 2014-10-25 at 04:19:59 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: sigh
Apparently, I fail reading comprehension today.
Posted on 2014-10-25 at 02:48:33.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: yup
I'm looking forward to it, too!
Edit: whoops, wrong person! Odyson - I think the only thing we are really disagreeing on it who should be rearguard. I do think that Maximus (our gladiator/thief... what a weird combo) will need to be up front when he's actively looking for traps, opening locks, etc... but I also that that he is quite vulnerable if he's up there when we breach a room or the like. You want the first target to be somebody like the night or the dwarf, who can trade blows with most things.
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 21:36:10.
Edited on 2014-10-25 at 02:48:12 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: heh
The new cleric is hawt. Too bad Arien has settled down...
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 20:11:25.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: yeah
Good point about the trap guy being close to the front. Though it's not *that* much effort to check for traps, then fall back as we advance.
To me, Sparrow becomes the ideal rear guard otherwise. Do we really want the dwarf to have to slowly waddle up to the front of every fight?
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 19:15:57.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: well...
Arien is, by definition, a tank. It seems to me that it would be foolhardy for him to not march point except when the rogue is handling traps and such. The only real alternative I would see would be Kadrin, no?
I think that it would likewise be foolhardy to not have one of the fighter types as rearguard.
My suggestion for marching order:
Arien
Kadrin
Sparrow
Lun
Jarenion
Finarsil
Maximus
or
Arien
Kadrin
Maximus
Lun
Jarenion
Finarsil
Sparrow
I assume you knew this, Roger, but Arien will always default to having Luin’naur at the ready, shield in the off hand.
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 18:44:37.
Edited on 2014-10-24 at 20:10:48 by t_catt11
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: heh
Oh great DM, live forever.
I would never call you a name like that!
I was merely referring to the fact that I had promised to give you this, and I had yet to keep my promise.
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 18:01:12.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: woo!
My character sheet is not the last one completed. I'm not a COMPLETE louse!
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 17:28:41.
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Topic: A new player has entered the game!
Subject: hey
Welcome to the Inn!
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 17:06:05.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: heh
the melon *is* something else...
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 17:04:05.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: in oher words
Olan is slacking off. Shocker. 
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 14:47:32.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: whoa
Character thread is making me tingly!
Posted on 2014-10-24 at 14:35:36.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: ugh
The d20s were not good to me, either.
Nor were the d100s. AT ALL.
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 19:18:30.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: excited!
After the second silver screen, I'm grinning like an idiot.
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 18:16:05.
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Topic: AMC's The Walking Dead
Subject: well
I feel like, at this point, the show and the comics are distinct stories. Some things in common, but far from the same... and really, that's what needs to be the case, now.
Crazy Rick is fun. I have to say, at this point in time, you need a strong leader that people just follow. The whole council thing is great if you have peace, but when survival is on a knife edge, you don't have time to talk things out.
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 17:31:25.
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Topic: CWWLLO QnA
Subject: heh
Good for Arien that he never quite had what it took to become a paladin, even if he tries to act like one.
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 17:29:06.
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Topic: AMC's The Walking Dead
Subject: you know...
I know he went all crazy town, but it's gets annoying how people refuse to listen to Rick, even when he's 100% correct. You absolutely could not let those people live, yet they did.
Now, we have another freaking Governor situation.
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 16:11:46.
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Topic: Tann's 2014 NFL U Pick'em Game
Subject: le sigh
I start getting better, then the NFL goes crazy. How can I be sucking this bad at the midpoint of the season?
San Diego at Denver
Detroit at Atlanta
St. Louis at Kansas City
Houston at Tennessee
Minnesota at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Carolina
Baltimore at Cincinnati
Miami at Jacksonville
Chicago at New England
Buffalo at NY Jets
Philadelphia at Arizona
Oakland at Cleveland
Indianapolis at Pittsburgh
Green Bay at New Orleans
Washington at Dallas
Posted on 2014-10-23 at 16:02:23.
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